Comments on: Chinese Project Notes 5: Monodics

By: 40 pancakes

40 pancakes — Fri, 01 May 2009 14:18:27 +0000

What would be your suggestion for absolute beginner sentence mining materials for Chinese? Like a Tae Kim equivalent, or the best online (free) Chinese-English dictionary? This is only out of curiosity, I really should be focusing on Japanese but… Anyway, thanks in advance!

By: Rebecca

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By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Fri, 29 Feb 2008 05:43:06 +0000

I use a piece of software called ChineseWriter 9, made for Japanese consumers. It’s got a CHN-JPN-CHN dic on it.

By: All My Nihongos

All My Nihongos — Sat, 23 Feb 2008 03:57:48 +0000

Hey Khatzumoto, your site is inspirational. I myself have a good base of Japanese and have already started studying Mandarin. So I’m kinda like you. When it comes to learning Japanese, one can use dic.yahoo.co.jp/ as it will give a word translation and an example sentence. zidian.cn.yahoo.com/ is good when you want to go ENG-CHN and have an example sentence in Mandarin. But what about JPN-CHN? Is there any site that if you type in a Japanese word it’ll give you the Mandarin equivalent with an example sentence in Mandarin? Does Yahoo have it? Thanks.

By: yun

yun — Sat, 15 Dec 2007 02:10:29 +0000

those first two dictionary links don’t seem to be working for me. anyone else having this problem?

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:26:19 +0000

>am I screwing myself to do repetitions with them before finishing the Kanji?
In principle, the fact that you’re doing Japanese at all is what ultimately matters. In practice, I would say that you should go learn those kanji first. There’s no way around them, only a way through them. You’re probably excited to learn “real” Japanese, but to the extent that you’re simply going to hit a wall at some point–a wall that can only be erased by kanji knowledge–you might as well take care of it now. From my personal experience, life is much easier when you know a few thousand kanji…

By: Kat in Japan

Kat in Japan — Mon, 01 Oct 2007 01:17:50 +0000

Wow. I feel like the last comment answered alot of my questions, although Im not trying to cram in two languages at the same time. Anyway, I started learning Kanji the old way-through childrens 1,2,3 year readers. Due to your site I began relearning the Kanji with the Heisig book. At this point though, I can read kana and a couple of hundred Kanji and was pulling sentences from the textbook I WAS reading, but have since changed to ‘mining’ per orders of the great Khatsumoto. Since the Kanji in this book are the ones I learned first, am I screwing myself to do repetitions with them before finishing the Kanji?

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 22:55:45 +0000

>do you recommend learning x-thousand chinese characters before doing the 10k sentences, just like for japanese?
Yes. Absolutely.

>do you also recommend doing 1 character per flash card
Yes. A compound is meaningless until you know its parts.

>do you see any drawbacks to doing sentences (phase 4) at the same time as doing the characters only?
Yes. It’s like learning sentences in English without knowing the alphabet. You’ll only be slowed down and frustrated. Learn hanzi first. Divide and conquer.

>i was wondering what your thoughts on learning both japanese and chinese simultaneously
二兎を追う者は一兎をも得ず：The hunter who chases two rabbits catches neither. She needs to use one to bait the other (sort of…). Sucking at two languages simultaneously = no good, IMHO. Get good at one first. One at a time. Then maybe you can use it to ladder onto the other.

By: boltar

boltar — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 16:27:20 +0000

hey, very nice site you have going here, khatzu. i’ve read most of your entries, and i just feel liberated with all this info. your writing is very motivational, to boot.

anyways, i have a question about learning chinese. do you recommend learning x-thousand chinese characters before doing the 10k sentences, just like for japanese?

do you also recommend doing 1 character per flash card, or do you recommend doing compound characters (to form a specific word) per flash card (thereby multiplying the number of cards by several factors)?

also, do you see any drawbacks to doing sentences (phase 4) at the same time as doing the characters only? because this is what i’m currently doing, as i don’t see any drawbacks to this approach at the moment.

my situation is, i’ve started learning japanese, and recently i switched gears into chinese. i was wondering what your thoughts on learning both japanese and chinese simultaneously. or would it be better to ‘master’ (loose definition) one so that you can ladder on to the other?

thanks in advance!

By: Saru Sponge

Saru Sponge — Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:30:09 +0000

Hehe.

Monodic.

By: Qin Shi Huangdi

Qin Shi Huangdi — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 23:10:59 +0000

Also, for those just starting out with their sentence mining or hanzi practice in Mandarin, there’s a good site I stumbled across

www.chinese-course.com/

Lots of sentences, lots of characters (in 繁體字 and 簡體字, with animated stroke orders for many of them, if your still getting used to writing), and organized in a style very similar to Mnemosyne and other SRS systems.

By: Qin Shi Huangdi

Qin Shi Huangdi — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 22:58:26 +0000

Most, most appreciated!

Eh. To make a long story short, I’m not in a position to drop any money in the pot right now, but as soon as I am, I will. This site has been incredibly valuable over the last few months, both for morale and for practical purposes. 🙂

By: uberstuber

uberstuber — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 21:31:02 +0000

sweet 🙂

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:54:05 +0000

Flipped posting order but kept the numbering 😀

By: uberstuber

uberstuber — Mon, 13 Aug 2007 08:49:14 +0000

What happened to Project Notes 4?