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By: Angeldust

Angeldust — Tue, 30 Mar 2010 23:36:01 +0000

I don’t have any Cantonese music, but if you’re still into making your own music a really good lyricless electronica band is Tiesto. His stuff is amazing! I really like his “Parade of the Athletes” album. It’s the music he did for the opening ceremonies for the 2004 Olympics in Athens. It’s really good.

By: Kubelek

Kubelek — Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:37:01 +0000

it reminds me of that one polish nu-jazz song:

www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxf0iHRjXGs

the first minute is an intro to their album. good stuff!

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Make listening less boring. | Daily Chinese Mnemonic - Beta — Mon, 15 Feb 2010 16:59:12 +0000

[…] Chinese Project Notes 9: Making Your Own Music “I have a way to get me to listen to those useful but by themselves rather bland language-learning audio tracks.” […]

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 13:58:51 +0000

I just have to say, adding music to rather dull dialogues has been a huge help. Why the heck did I not think of this before??? Thanks Khatz!

By: Nivaldo

Nivaldo — Mon, 10 Mar 2008 18:27:16 +0000

@Chiro-kun
I’d love to reply in japanese but unfortunately I still don’t have enough input(in fact, it has slowed down or even stopped due to environment problems). I must say I didn’t get your comment for a while(a few days) but I got it now FULLY(word by word). Well, the おねがいティーチャー anime is my first one of the romantic kind and to be honest I don’t enjoy romantic things much but as I’ve been weak on that area lately(needing a partner) it’s been useful(passion with japanese native words, yay!). So can’t really tell about where this path is going to lead but tell you that I’ve read the sinopsis of ラブコン and now I’m a little unsure if I should watch it or not. I’ll experiment it. As Khatz says, we must go for experiments. 😀

By: quendidil

quendidil — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:52:23 +0000

@zodiac

Not if you’re getting into some really archaic and almost unused characters (most of which have appeared after the Tang, AFAIK)

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:24:29 +0000

＠quendidil
＞Speaking of the IWGP soundtrack, do you know where to find the 「俺の話を聴け、二分だけでもいい」 song also featured in T&D? Makoto’s father sang it in the IWGP special; does it exist in a separate album?
It’s not on the IWGP ablum[sic]. But, it’s by クレイジーケンバンド (Crazy Ken Band) and it’ the opening theme to タイガー＆ドラゴン

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:22:55 +0000

@Ivan the Terrible
>So have you officially gone ‘all Cantonese all the time’? Or are you still studying Mandarin as well?
Dunno yet.

By: zodiac

zodiac — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 15:19:07 +0000

Actually, wouldn’t using a 13-volume dictionary be overkill for studying Japanese? Or even 文言文 for that matter.

By: quendidil

quendidil — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:50:54 +0000

Clannad is very easy to understand IMO, is the language really natural? If so, then :). I far prefer it to Kanon actually, I’d rate Clannad>AIR>Kanon, :p.

@zodiac
“Classical Chinese: the 大漢和辞典, which has definitions in Japanese, as you can see from the name. (和= classical 倭)”

huh? I thought classical chinese is chinese as spoken in the past?

Read the whole sentence, I said ‘a great resource for Classical Chinese’, which the 大漢和辞典 is.

Classical Chinese wasn’t authentically spoken for much longer after the Warring States period, probably at most till the mid-Han dynasty. The pronunciation had changed a lot by the Tang dynasty; tones weren’t originally in “Old Chinese”, the basis for Classical Chinese, as many scholars claim. They did develop by Middle Chinese during the Tang Dynasty though. The Tang period is when ‘Classical Chinese’ spread through (North-)East Asia; the Tang poems, Buddhist scriptures etc, are in this language, which does emulate quite successfully (I think) the grammar of REAL “classical chinese” (Warring States Chinese) though the pronunciation is drastically different (rhymes don’t work in many cases for example). The Nanyue regions (modern Guangdong and the surroundings) were also conquered during the Tang period by the Han Chinese, Cantonese developed from the Han settlers’ Middle Chinese with some influence from the natives, and is thus more conservative in some areas than the northern dialects. (Like maybe American English preserving some aspects of 17th century English ). The

OK, but all that was slightly OOT, suffice to say, the Japanese have also been studying Classical Chinese for centuries and they need dictionaries to aid their studies as well, so they developed this dictionary for Classical Chinese (文言文 in Chinese) with definitions in Japanese.

By: Chiro-kun

Chiro-kun — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 13:45:19 +0000

@Nivaldo –
今週から来週までの間に見てみる積もりだけどさ! 🙂
でも(imho)ロマンチックアニメならラブリコンプレックス(ラブコン) が最高だと思います!(それにキャラの言い方は関西弁ですよ!関西弁って大好き! 😀 )

@nacest –
Hmmm I was thinking of dropping that habit too since my schedule is pretty tight too, for this week and the next. Great idea of writing them down vertically, やって見るよ!!
本当にありがとう!今から頑張るよ。 😀

By: nacest

nacest — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 09:06:44 +0000

Chiro-kun,
to tell the truth, I’m not writing the sentences down lately. Until a couple of weeks ago I was using the pronunciation->expression method suggested by Khatz in a recent post. During that time I wrote down most of the sentences and it was a good kanji exercise as well (I’ve been meaning to write a small report on my experience with this method. I’ll probably do it next week). The only downside is that it takes some time.
Lately my schedule has gotten somewhat tight, so I temporarily switched back to expression->pronunciation with no writing down the sentences.

Anyway, I would suggest you write at least some of the sentences down, because writing individual kanji is not the same thing. You need to exercise the kana too, and the “flow” of continuous writing (I write them vertically instead of horizontally to get used to their mentality).

By: Nivaldo

Nivaldo — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 08:24:53 +0000

Yep! Gonna get みなみけ soon. I’m anxious. Also, try おねがいティーチャー at least until episode 8. It contains great pieces of comedy but from episode 8 on it becomes an almost strictly romantic series but still, enjoyable for the profound story. I guess I’m becoming romantic. 🙁

By: Chiro-kun

Chiro-kun — Sat, 08 Mar 2008 03:37:40 +0000

@nacest –
Ok this is the last question (promise 🙂 ). Do you write down all sentences in your SRS? I mean, since you practice Kanji everyday do you need to write the separate entries themselves?

@Nivaldo –
Don’t know about お願いティーチャー since I haven’t watched it but try クラナド or みなみけ. They both have a LOT of natural words and to top it みなみけ is slice of life. Yeah I fully agree about ナルト/One Piece (which sucks because I’m a great One Piece fan myself 🙁 ).

By: Nivaldo

Nivaldo — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:24:35 +0000

Hey Khatz! How’re you doing? Look, I was surfing through your site and when I read the “Are you a three day monk?” article’s comments I found a very useful comment of yours concerning Native Japanese Words. So I stopped going for ナルト and デスノート and instead picked up all the episodes of おねがいティーチャー(got somewhat addicted to it :D. Not that I’m romantic or something like that). Do you think I made a good choice? Also, what do you think of grouping “key comments” into some kind of group like “Key Comments” attach it to the groups you already have at the top of the page? I mean, among comments there are some very nice and helpful ones. By grouping them, it would make searching easier if necessary at all.
About おねがいティーチャー’s choice, I would like to hear the opinion of other people as well? As from I what I’ve seen, this anime has much more natural words than ナルト or デスノート among others.
Finally, good job “Making your own music”. 😀

By: zodiac

zodiac — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 13:56:34 +0000

“Classical Chinese: the 大漢和辞典, which has definitions in Japanese, as you can see from the name. (和= classical 倭)”

huh? I thought classical chinese is chinese as spoken in the past?

By: quendidil

quendidil — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:46:45 +0000

I think once you start doing at least around 100 new cards a day, you’ll see your reading comprehension improve much faster.

By: nacest

nacest — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 08:06:55 +0000

漢字そのまま　DS楽引辞典
From what I can tell it’s a good dictionary. Its definitions may be slightly less simple than the sanseido ones (and the Challenge ones), but it’s still very clear.

But the main reason I like it is that it’s soooooo handy. After I got it I was finally able to read manga and books (well I’m still reading my first book :P) in Japanese while in bed, because I’m not bound to big paper dics or to the PC for the web-based ones.

As for kanji, yes, I’m still reviewing them on the kanji.koohii.com site. It’s been 6 months since I’ve finished RTK, and now the average daily workload is ~18 cards. It takes something like 10 minutes a day 🙂

By: Chiro-kun

Chiro-kun — Fri, 07 Mar 2008 03:15:44 +0000

@nacest

You mean 楽引そのまま漢字辞典 right?
How’s the 国語辞典 in that one? I might plan on buying it….

Another general question to those who have completed Heisig:
Do you guys keep reviewing your kanji? For me, it’s been around 2-3 months and I’m gradually starting to forget the meanings and stroke orders…..