Comments on: How to Avoid The Two Biggest Mistakes That Almost All Language Learners Seem to Make /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/ You don't know a language, you live it. You don't learn a language, you get used to it. Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:09:19 +0900 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.13 By: How to Worry Correctly | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000567931 Mon, 19 Aug 2019 07:37:32 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000567931 […] This no-abstract-worries thing is a lot like how you ask questions of the Internet. Basically, you w…. Don’t ask whether or not a problem can be solved, ask how to solve a specific problem and be prepared to pay for high-quality answers. Don’t learn “how to cook”, make one (and only one) dish for dinner tonight. Don’t solve “world hunger” (a stupid phrase if ever there was one). Feed and love this one kid — and only this one kid — now. […]

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By: alissa j /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000150388 Fri, 06 Jun 2014 01:28:07 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000150388 last week I realized an acquaintance still sucks at Japanese despite being a teacher, therefore, the teacher’s learning/teaching methods must not work. (the students who learn by watching anime/reading manga surpass the teacher at reading kanji.) number one thing this teacher is doing right is not using a textbook. in the ESL world we like “authentic material” and it works for any language. I like education reform – especially when it comes to language learning. if I can’t teach you to have a natural conversation or read and understand クレヨンしんちゃん, what’s fun about studying Japanese?? if your level is around intermediate/B2, you should be using an English-English dictionary and able to watch tv without subtitles at my school. same goes for learners of any language.

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By: Why Do Keep Asking For Advice From People Who Have No Business Giving It? | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000065986 Sat, 01 Mar 2014 01:07:09 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000065986 […] PS: Here’s how you ask the Internet for advice in such a way that you don’t get damaged. […]

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By: FluentUFrench /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062587 Sun, 01 Dec 2013 00:14:08 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062587 Words to live by – “Don’t Live in the For-Foreigner #Language Materials Ghetto” t.co/5G6xdmcWFd #foreignlanguages via @ajatt

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By: HelioTROPH /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062588 Sat, 30 Nov 2013 18:40:48 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062588 RT @FluentUChinese: Words to live by – “Don’t Live in the For-Foreigner #Language Materials Ghetto” t.co/JeFZ39uF8K #foreignlanguage…

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By: FluentUChinese /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062449 Sat, 30 Nov 2013 14:14:09 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062449 Words to live by – “Don’t Live in the For-Foreigner #Language Materials Ghetto” t.co/JeFZ39uF8K #foreignlanguages via @ajatt

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By: FluentU /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062450 Sat, 30 Nov 2013 08:02:05 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062450 Words to live by – “Don’t Live in the For-Foreigner #Language Materials Ghetto” t.co/qs0VYseamA #foreignlanguages via @ajatt

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By: FluentUEnglish /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062451 Fri, 29 Nov 2013 23:10:46 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062451 Words to live by – “Don’t Live in the For-Foreigner #Language Materials Ghetto” t.co/00eEaOQaud #foreignlanguages via @ajatt

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By: 魔法少女☆かなたん /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062387 Fri, 29 Nov 2013 16:56:29 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062387 Some people on the internet give good advice about learning languages though, like this boy: www.youtube.com/watch?v=kibSaUEfWqU

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By: The Art of Japanese Green Tea /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062384 Fri, 29 Nov 2013 15:52:52 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062384 I really like the first point, and it seems to apply to more than just language learning.

Sometimes, I feel the need to Google something like, “How to be happy” or, “How to think positively” or even, “How to become motivated/productive”. On occasion I will find something interesting (which will lead to a more specific follow up search) but usually, I’ll come to the conclusion that the answer to my self-improvement question must come from within.

What I mean is, only I know what will work for me. The Internet can give me some fresh ideas/suggestions, but when it comes to how effective they are, only I can accurately gauge that for myself.

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By: Thomas Smith /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062314 Thu, 28 Nov 2013 10:49:09 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062314 If you ask the internet (especially the learning Chinese brigade) if ANYTHING will work, they tell you it won’t. So instead I just have articles of faith. I have zero evidence for them. One day, when they happen, and I have evidence, I’ll tell the internet.

Here they are, for those interested.

Articles of Faith

1. Even if I can’t choose native pronunciation yet, I will be able to, eventually.
2. Listening to music won’t ruin my tones.
3. The tones will one day 「split out」, just as the non-tonal sounds did.
4. Language-feeling will come, eventually.
5. Material relevant to the things I want to say will eventually show up in the immersion environment.
6. You can trust and mimic FUNBUN that has been translated into Chinese from another language.
7. Something valuable is happening when I read something I only partially follow.
8. I can pick up a massive adult vocabulary without SRSing absolutely everything. It will go in somehow.

(A few things used to be on the list, then they happened:

* I will get native handwriting, eventually, somehow.
* The character elements will 「blend together」, eventually, somehow.
* The sounds will 「split out」.
* The grammar will stop sounding weird.
* I’ll start thinking in Mando.
* I’ll read a comic with 100% one day.
* I’ll follow the plot in a novel one day.

and countless others)

So yeah, next time you have a doubt, make it an Article, and promise to check if you still doubt it 365 days hence. You almost certainly won’t. If you still do, well, maybe you were right, or maybe you need more time.

I know *exactly* what the internet would tell me if I asked about any of the above, so why bother asking?

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By: Lunar /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062170 Wed, 27 Nov 2013 19:53:28 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062170 Regarding the second part, wouldn’t you still need to have some knowledge of grammar to be able to understand what you’re reading? I don’t mean sitting down and drilling all those verb endings and particles etc., just… reading through a guide or a textbook just to know what each ending/particle/whatever does, in general, just to be aware this stuff exists so you won’t be utterly confused when you run into it in the wild.

I use “just” far too often.

But anyway, that was sort of how I learned English. I, like every kid, started with classes at school which gave me enough background to be able to sorta understand what I’m reading (with a lot of assistance) and then I discovered the internet, anime (w/ English subs) and video games and it went from there.

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By: Kokothepolyglot /how-to-avoid-the-two-biggest-mistakes-that-almost-all-language-learners-seem-to-make/#comment-1000062316 Tue, 26 Nov 2013 15:40:56 +0000 /?p=27782#comment-1000062316 How to Avoid The Two Biggest Mistakes That Almost All Language Learners Seem to Make t.co/CGGxkgcmu8 #LanguageLearningTips

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