Comments on: Programming Break

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 06:16:48 +0000

Yeah, definitely. I’m not an authority on Japanese itself (yet 8) ), so because of my ignorance, I correct very (too?) strictly, going very conservatively according to what I currently know to to be correct structure, elements and general composition (“sound” and “feel”).

BTW “オタク少女” gets ~20,000 Google hits versus ~4560 for “オタクな少女”. 約5倍の差。But that doesn’t necessarily prove anything. For what it’s worth, I do feel like “オタクな” is awkward…But like I said, my experience is limited to what I’ve seen, heard and read thus far. Japanesewise, I’m a 3-year-old (who reads grown-up books?) — fluent but not authoritative.

This reminds me of the time when I wrote でしょ, to a guy (American, Japanese learner), and he goes “no, Khatz, it’s でしょう”, and I had to tell him that でしょ was slang for でしょう…

Anyway…I’m still on the path, just like you. Just down the road a little bit 😀

By: quendidil

quendidil — Tue, 13 Nov 2007 05:57:44 +0000

Hmm but Khatz, I’ve seen オタクな before. And on the wikipedia article for らきすた they use オタクな

Anyway thanks for correcting the sentences, I’ll put them in my deck.

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:14:33 +0000

因みにこの前アップしたコメントを少し直したんだけど・・・ご参考までに。

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:02:08 +0000

えっ？何？意味解んない・・・

By: quendidil

quendidil — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 15:00:43 +0000

Another question if you don’t mind.
What do you talk about after adding someone on a language exchange site?

By: quendidil

quendidil — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 02:57:55 +0000

そうかな～。やっぱり「行くでがんす」と言った登場人物が上流階級の家に生まれ育った女の子だった。
「始まるざます」と言ったのはオタク少女なんだけど・・・

By: quendidil

quendidil — Mon, 12 Nov 2007 01:02:39 +0000

Alright thanks! It probably is でがんす. Still, it isn’t in yahoo’s 国語 dictionaries, but
ざます is, strange.

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:08:17 +0000

Anyway, assuming it IS 行くでがんす, I’ve never seen らきすた but, this is clearly the dialogue of upper-class “society ladies”. In both cases, I don’t know the full etymology behind it, but, as far as meaning is concerned both ざます and でがんす are essentially contractions/derivatives of (で)御座います, and therefore abbreviated-but-politer ways of saying です. (BTW, in Japan, the general pattern is that high-class women show off their high-classness by speaking politely).

There’s also ござんす, another (で)御座います derivative. And, AFAIK, で御座います is itself contracted from で御座ります [try saying it quickly and see what happens].

That’s my call on it. But if anyone has a different view, feel free to chime in :D.

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 16:02:40 +0000

Hmmm…
Are you sure it’s not “行くでがんす”

By: quendidil

quendidil — Sun, 11 Nov 2007 15:06:54 +0000

Khatz, can I ask you something?
In an anime called らきすた, there was an opening line with
さぁ、始まるざますよ
いくでかんす
I looked up ざます and Yahoo said　［動サ特活］「ある」の意の丁寧語。多く補助動詞として用いる。　with the caveat that it is also part of 女性語.
What I don’t get is the 2nd line. I’m guessing いく=行く here but what is でかんす？
Thanks

By: ハイジ

ハイジ — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 02:14:51 +0000

I look forward to seeing the new features you are adding to KhatzuMemo !
ヨロシクネ♪
(｡･ω･｡)ノ･☆’:*;’:*

By: khatzumoto

khatzumoto — Wed, 07 Nov 2007 00:10:12 +0000

You can use numbers to make words by using all or part of the names of the numbers.

4 – よん、し
6 – ろく
4 – し、よん
9 – く、きゅう

In this case, we take the first syllable of each one. It’s a tool commonly used to make memorable phone numbers, but also in slang or jokes. Like “作戦ナンバー37564【み・な・ご・ろ・し《皆殺し》】番」！” (Samurai Champloo (Manga version), Vol. 1, p50)

By: Saru

Saru — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 21:16:42 +0000

I still don’t get it. :p

By: Charles

Charles — Tue, 06 Nov 2007 12:15:42 +0000

Hahaha! Thanks Alex. I would have never figured it out… I was thinking it was 1337. Khatz talking about coding and all:)

By: Alex

Alex — Mon, 05 Nov 2007 15:59:47 +0000

“4649ne”

Ha! Is this the word on the streets these days? “よ・ろ・し・く”. Back in the day we used “3-9”. (サンキュウ）