Comments on: Secrets to Smoother SRSing, Part 6: Maintain Only the Baseline/SRS Holidays /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/ You don't know a language, you live it. You don't learn a language, you get used to it. Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:09:19 +0900 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.13 By: Back from an SRS break • Animefangirl! | Animefangirl! /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-1000507931 Fri, 07 Nov 2014 12:50:55 +0000 /?p=343#comment-1000507931 […] before Khatz at AJATT put up this post, I was already on an extended break from my SRS. Meaning I was still doing my reps every morning […]

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By: Jacob /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-23968 Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:45:43 +0000 /?p=343#comment-23968 @Mike
I sometimes have that happen when I’m using Anki to study Chinese hanzi. After restarting my computer they show back and the boxes are nowhere to be seen. You may also need to make sure that you have the correct fonts set, but I don’t think that that should be the problem.

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By: Mike /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-23861 Fri, 14 Aug 2009 07:41:46 +0000 /?p=343#comment-23861 i DL anki so i could start learning but for some reason i cant see the kanji all i see are squares what do i need

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By: Heather /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-17883 Mon, 06 Apr 2009 18:47:25 +0000 /?p=343#comment-17883 So, first off, I realize this was posted way back in January, but I didn’t see it until today and I feel the need to comment, so tough cookies.

I’m on an SRS holiday right now and I’ve been taking them every few months or so. I’m still going through RTK 1 (closing in on the end of it, though!), so usually these holidays occur when I’ve added everything that I’ve come up with mnemonic stories for and am staring at a chapter without mnemonics. I like to write my stories/cull them from the Remembering the Kanji website ahead of time and write them into the book (this makes learning them at work much easier for me), and sometimes I fall into a lull where the stories are concerned. The inevitable consequence is that I end up having added everything that has a story and am looking to study/add more and have no stories yet. It’s at this point that I go on holiday. I spend my time doing reps and adding stories. It’s a nice little break. Sometimes I feel like I’m not making the progress I should be when I do this, but I always come away with more kanji actually memorized than before, so I don’t think I’m actually losing progress at all.

Blah blah blah… main point = SRS holidays are good and I like. ^^;

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By: Chris /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15125 Sat, 17 Jan 2009 04:57:56 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15125 Thanks a lot for the link 😀 if the trial proves to be worth it, I might consider buying it. Thanks again, real lifesaver.

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By: All Japanese All The Time Dot Com: How to learn Japanese. On your own, having fun and to fluency. » Success Story…Kinda: SRS and the Power and Value of Memory /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15118 Sat, 17 Jan 2009 03:00:37 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15118 […] article used flight as a metaphor is quite pertinent in light of recent aviation events (thanks beneficii!). Share and Enjoy: These icons link to social bookmarking sites where readers can share and […]

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By: beneficii /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15111 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 18:41:54 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15111 Chalk one up to long years of experience:

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By: タケシ /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15108 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 17:12:33 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15108 Chris:

I believe Khatz had linked to Xilisoft’s DVD Audio Ripper,
www.xilisoft.com/dvd-audio-ripper.html

It has a trial download that you can use for a limited amount of time.

Regards

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By: igordesu /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15104 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 16:24:42 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15104 I have one that works for free that I got off the web. It’s called Free Sound Recorder. I think that’s what you’re looking for 🙂

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By: Chris /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15099 Fri, 16 Jan 2009 04:10:17 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15099 Hey, this is completely off topic, but I really need to know. A while back I saw a link to an audio ripper, and I thought that that’d be a great way to get audio off my Japanese movies and put it on my MP3 player… only problem is, I can’t find the link in any post or comment. I was wondering if someone could help me, because I have some pretty great audio just waiting to get on my brand new MP3 player 😀 (Japanese director’s commentary anyone?)

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By: John Biesnecker /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15085 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:25:58 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15085 I find myself taking these breaks often. With Anki now having configurable new card limits, I tend to enter a lot of sentences at once and then, when I want a break, just turn the “new cards per day” down either really low or to zero. Either way I never make the limit too high, because I want to even out the inflow of new items and not get overwhelemed.

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By: David /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15079 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:59:22 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15079 This makes me feel much less guilty now. I didn’t add hardly anything in the last three weeks. Just exchanging emails with natives, watching movies, doing my reps, etc. I was feeling down about it because it seems like I wasn’t making any progress.

Another plus to this is that it reduces the amount of daily reps so they’re easier to get through. So, if you do bursts of additions, this is a chance to smooth it over. It is definitely good to pace yourself, though, as mentioned before.

Ever since the author of Anki added a Timeboxing module, I’ve been getting through my reps much faster than before. It came at a good time, too.

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By: Squintox /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15075 Thu, 15 Jan 2009 00:10:45 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15075 I did this with the reps, but not the adding 😛

I love adding, and to an extent, the reps if done in short bursts with timeboxing (2 sentences in one minute, 6 kanji in two minutes). Short winnable games right? ;D

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By: igordesu /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15072 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:35:27 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15072 Good job Khatz. Always pointing out the blindingly obvious when everyone else is too stupid to realize it 😉 Sometimes we just need good ol’ common sense advice like this.

I find it funny that you wrote this at the beginning January, just after the “holidays.” I (probably along with many other people) were forced to take an SRS holiday b/c of family stuff, etc, etc. That’s actually what I did over Christmas and New Year’s. I didn’t add anything, but I just kept reviewing. It’s actually quite a motivational boost. After a while you start doing really good on everything since you don’t have many “new” cards.

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By: Sutebun /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15071 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:20:32 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15071 This has been the most challenging part for me. I really have not kept up on my SRS for a good extended period of time. Only when I was doing RTK (I soon quit after finishing it).
I do notice much more significant retention while using an SRS.

I’m gonna try scaling back now and attempt to do only recognition cards (which can be made quickly and reviewed quickly). With Anki’s new typing the answer feature, I want to try to timebox about 20 minutes a day for reviews in which I just retype (and read aloud of course) the phrase. I got this idea from playing Typing of The Dead and thinking “Damn, it would be really cool to be able to put my own phrases/words in this game!” and then realizing that I can sort of accompolish that with the new feature in Anki. In otherwords, I want to try blasting through the cards really fast, using the typing feature as a way to turn it into more of a game (hand writing is too time consuming [read: boring] for me) while reviewing at the same time. Hopefully this will keep stuck on an SRS!

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By: タケシ /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15068 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:48:17 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15068 Diego:

This might be what you’re looking for,
www.getasianmusic.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=31

Regards

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By: Diego /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15067 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 20:11:45 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15067 As usual you have written a great post Khatz!
I’m still going through the Kanji (close to the 400’s yay!) and a great thing to do is just to have that Japanese music in the background. I was getting my music from Jmp3.net but today I found out it was changed to some Japanese dating site. Any suggestions as to where I can find some J music to download.

Sorry if I went off topic, but I think the music helps a lot in setting the environment while doing the SRS so I need a new site to get music from otherwise I’ll die…well not really but it will make the reps tedious.

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By: Luke /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15066 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:56:13 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15066 Heya! Random question! Anyone know where to get the Japanese scripts to the first series of Pokémon? Thanks!

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By: NDN /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15065 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 18:38:31 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15065 I think I should have said this before but I was kind of waiting for something more specific on the memory topic. Khatz and everyone else, what do you think of using Mind Maps instead of SRS?

A few months ago, I found an interview (more specifically, a chat, and if I’m not wrong, it was on www.msoworld.com or something like that) where Mr. Tony Buzan said he was going to learn spanish. In that same chat, he said he would apply mind maps to learn new words and review old ones(what we do with the SRS). So, basically, I think he would replace whole sentences with words only, attaching them to images and linking each image with all its synonyms (is this word written correctly?) and other images forming a mind map.

I haven’t tried the method ’cause I’m already accustomed to SRSing and I would have to copy all the words to mind maps (double work, maybe I’ll invent a Mind Map SRS software that reads from normal SRS files into Mind Map SRS files but I guess something will be out long before I even start thinking about this as I’m still a VERY VERY inexperienced programmer. Here stays the idea for the interested people) but I hope newcomers investigate more about it, for example, if Buzan reported his results after going through the experience or if he’s still learning the language and of course try the method themselves and report the results.

If my MEMORY doesn’t fail I think Mr. Buzan said that he could finish learning spanish in 3 months, he also talked about indispensable things (which are common to AJATT) like immersing yourself TOTALLY in the target language.

In my opinion, the mind map method is better than the SRS not only ’cause it contains images(SRS items may also contain images) but also ’cause the words are linked to images, images linked to each other, synonyms linked to the same image, etc..
I think it would make an harmonious picture of a language.
Besides, since Mind Maps improve memory drastically (instant recognition) in many things, why not use them for words of a new language?

A mind map can be made with software so one doesn’t have to use gigantic stacks of paper.

Anyway, what are your (everyone’s) opinions on this?

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By: Nukemarine /secrets-to-smoother-srsing-part-6-maintain-only-the-baselinesrs-holidays/#comment-15054 Wed, 14 Jan 2009 07:41:44 +0000 /?p=343#comment-15054 Fairly reasonable advice. What you don’t review today will be there tomorrow. Just review either a set time or a set amount. Carry on with the rest of your day. When your reviews end so fast that you have free time you set aside for studying, start adding new stuff. Basically, find a pace you’re comfortable with. Don’t take the “I must finish them all today” mentality cause soon you won’t have time in that day, so you then begin to not review “since I can’t finish today”.

Don’t be afraid about forgetting stuff. If your SRS timing is set up correctly, you’re forgetting about 10% to 20% of every review anyway. The thing is knowing “only” 80% of 8000 things is better than knowing 99% of 1000 things. Just pace yourself. In time, what you remember is spaced out far enough that you begin finishing daily reviews faster. Again, add new stuff if you have enough allotted time left over.

Put it this way: Marathon runners do not run at a 100m dash pace, as the Marathon would be over in like what, an hour? How can you sell enough “Goo”(tm) in only an hour to pay advertising costs? No, pace yourself for that 26 mile run. But we’re not even talking a marathon. We’re talking 2 miles a day, every day, for 500 days. If you miss 3 days, don’t try to make them up by doing 8 miles. Just do 2 miles and carry on. The goal is not going anyway. PACE YOURSELF. Luke didn’t run around Daggabah with Yoda on his shoulders TWICE at a sprint (it’s true, look it up yourself in the novel adaption), he paced himself with the Force. You can too.

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