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By: Patrick

Patrick — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 23:57:33 +0000

Oh mah gawd, Just ordered FFXIII J for ps3, Only $50 (expedited international shipping included) 😀

Gonna have some fun.

By: alissa

alissa — Tue, 12 Apr 2011 01:06:29 +0000

hehehe: dogatch.jp/mameshibaworld/video.html

I watch a lot of the Jdrama & movies online.（ホタルノヒカリ！）
& just started reading クレヨンしんちゃん
that’s fun for me.

豆に、ね？

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By: アメド

アメド — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:45:25 +0000

I forgot to mention how long does it take to reach fluency in another language. Probably 1-10 years. But with the srs, one can get it down to 2-5 years in my opinion. But everyone defintion of fluency in different.

Mine is being able to read,write,speak,listen to that 95%+ mark in the language. That is what complete fluency means to me

By: アメド

アメド — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 18:40:55 +0000

What I’v learned so far from learning japanese is that, you must have fun. If you want to get far you must enjoy what your doing. That being said, fun is different for everyone. I’m addicted to srsing but some might not find that fun but I do. I also like immersing,reading,writing,playing around with my full japanese games,novels,mangas,keigo books,etc. But everyone shuold have that general interest of having fun because why else are you doing it then?

It’s finally 18months of me learning japanese. I’ve noticed a few things people should know, maintain srs reps,immersing,read and have fun with what your learning. If you want to do more, set out what to do but limit it to small amounts. So you don’t burn yourself out from learning too much daily. Maintaing is the key to success in language learning. You get more out of what you maintain than what you do daily. How do I know? I’ve reached that 95%+ in the language in terms of reading/listening. I have full confident I will be able to do the same with speaking/writing. We all worry too much about when we will get good but if you have fun everyday,, you will never need to worry because before you know it, you’ll be fluent. I’m feeling really confident I can gain full fluency in all skills of the japanese language.

So please have fun, don’t knock yourself down, don’t do too much srsing. Just maintain and add at a steady pace. 20-30 new cards usual works if you do it right. This blog site has taught me a few good things. Khatz isn’t a genius, he’s just a regular person like anyone else. He just did what he felt was fun and succeeded in it. Therefore anyone can do it, heck even I’m doing it and I’m not such a smart person but a lot of people believe I am. But in fact, anyone can master another language. If you did it with english, you can do it with any other language.

But a lot of people like to say they don’t have enough time. I hate hearing these things personally. If you really want it so badly, you’ll do it and find time to do it. I personally have school,work,still hang out with friends and I still got tihs far. It isn’t suprising. Just give it time and you’ll get far.

Before I finish this post I want to say this. If you want to improve writing kanji by hand, keep writing. But how does one do this. With the srs you can master writing all major 2000-3000 kanji with the srs of your choice. kana in the question and kanji in the answer. Put basic vocab,kanji,etc in it/sentences. Then start to increase. I’ve increased my written abilities with this. I won’t have problems writing all those kanji in 1 year from now. So if you think you can’t reach fluency in writing,your wrong,very wrong!

I’ll be sure to post a success story here once I reach complete fluency but until then. Keep having fun,keep learning and lastly just maintain, don’t do too much.

By: Han

Han — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 15:42:29 +0000

Can you not download podcasts from radio news shows, maybe? Even general chit chat shows are useful. A lot of big news agencies these days will have a downloadable webcast.
As for the SRS, pen and paper works if you’re out the house 😉

By: Sandra

Sandra — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 14:20:30 +0000

It is not simple to have always fun because it isn’t easy to have the right material.
I’m really interested in Mandarin. I have many links to streaming contents (movies, radio, songs), but for me it is really hard to enjoy them without my computer, or out of my house far from my internet flat contract. Or SRS: no computer, no Anki. I have some songs on my mp3 player, but they’re not enough to have fun all the time, a radio would be better: always contents, no need to choose and download them. I can’t pay for an Ipod or similar to reach contents while moving. Do you think I have to consider such an idea? >_>

By: Han

Han — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 04:41:57 +0000

I know what people mean by it’s difficult to find more fun things to do after a while. I generally don’t enjoy movies, and can’t just take twenty minutes out of my time to watch a TV show. I just don’t find them fun. I’ve helped alleviate that a little by downloading shows I always intended to watch in English, but never got round to, in Russian (currently going through Avatar with a friend who knows it inside and out in English, so he can explain any plot points if I’m missing them), but unfortunately the dubbing business here isn’t good.
And I tried getting games, the text files always end up corrupted! If anyone knows how to fix that, please reply. I think the problem is the format they’re saved in isn’t compatible with my Latin-letter Notepad program, but I can’t only think of maybe uninstalling Notebook to fix it.

By: 魔法少女☆かなたん

魔法少女☆かなたん — Tue, 05 Apr 2011 02:58:39 +0000

If you read/listen to material, and on the first time, there are gaps in your understanding, it may be enjoyable to reuse in the future as you acquire more language. It’s not inherently useless effort to reuse material multiple times.

But it does help to have variety. If you’re using the same material too often, maybe it’s time to get more. If you feel like you don’t have a choice, you don’t have enough.

By: lxmorj

lxmorj — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 19:02:56 +0000

isn’t it still wasteful? if you use material that costs $10 only once, and it accomplishes the goal, you aren’t ‘getting more out of it’ by reading it again. forcing yourself to read / watch / listen over and over for the sake of maximizing the time you spend per dollar spent is as unwasteful as throwing up dessert so you can eat it again and get twice the fun!

By: Onsokumaru

Onsokumaru — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 13:38:44 +0000

Haha. I seem to be doing it wrong then.

By: nan

nan — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 12:55:22 +0000

Mind giving us the details of how you do this? I have a lot of phrase clips, and random bits of Mandarin audio, which I mix in with music and set to shuffle, but it sounds like you are actually having the language clips play over the music. If so, how exactly do you do this?

By: ahndoruuu

ahndoruuu — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:40:33 +0000

If you’re doing it right, you won’t be using a “learning book” 😉

By: Aaron

Aaron — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 08:15:31 +0000

Another great post. Thanks and I’ll be passing this one on to others.

Having fun in Turkey,
Aaron

By: Philip

Philip — Mon, 04 Apr 2011 01:37:45 +0000

I totally agree that having fun is key to motivation. For me just reviewing my flashcards is kind of fun. It’s kind of addictive. In the end though it’s perseverance that counts… Climbing mountains is fun, but it’s also hard. It’s the same with language learning.

By: Andy

Andy — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 17:41:11 +0000

“If you do what you like to do, you’ll be able to do what you like to do.”

By: Onsokumaru

Onsokumaru — Sun, 03 Apr 2011 14:48:30 +0000

I don’t understand though. How would you go about making learning it fun?
Obviously at some point you need to buckle down and study or get through a chapter in whatever learning book you’re using and it won’t be fun. I agree about needing to enjoy yourself though but what would you suggest to making “learning fun”?

By: zaynah ming-lodge

zaynah ming-lodge — Sat, 02 Apr 2011 18:12:39 +0000

Touche! 🙂