Comments on: The Language Learner’s Prayer /the-language-learners-prayer/ You don't know a language, you live it. You don't learn a language, you get used to it. Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:09:19 +0900 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.13 By: The Best Case Scenario of Fluency | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-1000060222 Fri, 18 Oct 2013 08:37:04 +0000 /?p=480#comment-1000060222 […] Dawkins, half-Mexican atheist lovechild! Talk about fitting the evidence to a theory (if you tell them it […]

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By: How to Make Big SRS Changes Smoothly: The Darwinian Game | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-1000055014 Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:07:06 +0000 /?p=480#comment-1000055014 […] But I’m not a big fan of Darwinism. Heck, even Richard Dawkins, the man I pray to every night before I go to sleep, isn’t big on Darwinism. […]

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By: SilverSpoon 7.0: Neutrino, The Legal Addiction That People Will Praise You For | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-264521 Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:19:06 +0000 /?p=480#comment-264521 […] on waiting list, hope and pray to Richard Dawkins for a space, and try to join the SilverSpoon “flavor” appropriate to your language and […]

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By: s0apgun /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-177213 Sat, 17 Dec 2011 05:15:10 +0000 /?p=480#comment-177213 Oh man… that first 
Are you the world’s b***h?

really packed a punch! I laughed so damn hard mannnnnnn

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By: Kimura /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-147445 Thu, 20 Oct 2011 23:40:30 +0000 /?p=480#comment-147445 Well, the problem in my case is that my parents keep trying (seemingly on purpose) to distract me from learning Japanese. “Just move out, ばか!”, right? Not for another 1.5 years I legally can’t, I’m only 19 and have no job experience (thanks Running Start for simultaniously coughing up for college and making me un-hireable during that time!). Right now, I’m limited to doing Anki reps, using any site/program I can 日本語で (including Firefox itself), and whatever else I can find on the internet that doesn’t need a paypal account. So am I apparently the world’s [EXPLETIVE REDACTED]? Maybe, but it sure as Shitpickle isn’t by choice.
 
Also, it’s “End of Line”. “EOF” is what programmers put in their code because they want to save half a byte (only half because you need a pair of ”s for it, instead of just one for a normal string. /level1codenerd)

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By: 星空 /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-60296 Sun, 14 Nov 2010 00:40:30 +0000 /?p=480#comment-60296 スゲエ勝、勝つ

言いたい事は1つだけ:エドワード・エルリック 100%。
本当に、この以上が鋼の錬金術師と同じ言う事なんだよ!

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By: Zach /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-59582 Sat, 06 Nov 2010 08:05:03 +0000 /?p=480#comment-59582 Karl Popper, woot woot!

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By: Kat /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29919 Sun, 20 Dec 2009 06:50:10 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29919 I’ve always considered your site to be a “Personal Development” site above a language learning site because the truth is, you’re not teaching me ‘jack’ about Japanese 😛 (but telling me all the juicy tips on where to get such a noble edjumucation)

Anyway, I just wanted to ask about the fast-food link. I didn’t get what you were getting at, because there is no mention of fecal matter or dying children pristine white or otherwise. It seems like a bad attempt to criticize honest, hard-working individuals who found a better way to do business successfully and *gasp* honestly by using a personal brand of ‘personal development’ we could probably learn from. (At one point, the author seemed disgusted that a honest businessman was not ASHAMED of being so successful.. because what, PROPER success is guilt-laden?) Is that why you linked? I’m just completely lost on the connection…

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By: Heather /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29623 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:11:25 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29623 Thank you! A kick in the butt is just what the doctor ordered.

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By: Chester /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29621 Sun, 13 Dec 2009 19:21:04 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29621 HAHA, nice way to start a prayer with dawkins. He is awesome.

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By: Auxie /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29540 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 15:45:52 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29540 First comment after 15 months of lurking (and studying) 😀

Thanks for the verbal slap in the face, Khatz. I don’t particularly need it at the moment – motoring along quite nicely (though fluency in 15-18 months ain’t gonna happen – maybe 24-36?) – but it’s bookmarked for the next time I start making excuses. Also, you’re 26? I always thought you were younger than me (clearly I fail at maths). The knowledge that we’re the same age makes me feel better… even though you’re fluent and I’m nowhere near it. Ummm, yeah.

@Maya

You WIN, you do. Chalk me up as a person helped : ) I can already recite the English version of Alice In Wonderland by heart (every line, every poem, every song, right down to the intonation) – now I can do it all again in Japanese!

@Daniel & @Matt

26 is clearly the prime age for language learning ; )

And smoothie drinking.

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By: 事理〜 /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29520 Fri, 11 Dec 2009 08:02:13 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29520 Another great point that Khats made was Delete bad cards or they will delete you. Via Twitter… Following Japnese Speakers on twitter has a wealth of Natural sentences. and slang

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By: Max /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29458 Thu, 10 Dec 2009 02:17:00 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29458 Is anyone else having trouble accessing scripts on dramanote? I’ve been trying to get to the scripts for 花ざかりの君たちへ and 電車男 but it keeps taking me back to the main page of the site (that lists the latest drama scripts).

If anyone could help me out, that would be fantastic! These scripts are the main source of my sentence mining!

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By: beneficii /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29323 Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:11:42 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29323 Here is a recap of the Cards game tonight in Japanese:

www.nfljapan.com/score/recap/54654.html

And I’m going to watch the Rice Bowl on January 3rd!

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By: Aaron /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29301 Sun, 06 Dec 2009 20:37:08 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29301 Tony Robbins has nothing on Khatz.

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By: パン /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29146 Fri, 04 Dec 2009 13:17:11 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29146 Thanks for the post Khatz.

As rude as some people might think you are, I find you to be an awesome mentor. I think it’s all about having the right attitude towards language learners when preaching them, I mean, I’ve read it too many times already..’It won’t work for everybody’とか, ‘Not everybody could reach the same results’とか and other lines coming from those who ‘think’ they’re helping us when they’re doing nothing but wasting their time and more importantly, ours.

Keep up the good work!

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By: アメド /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29066 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 23:55:07 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29066 @Ken

Well I can’t really switch my computer to japanese ,as I have to share it with other people, in the near future i’ll buy myself a really really solid laptop and just make it pure Japanese. I’m trying just to put sites that i visit, such as youtube to japanese.
Yea I think since I haven’t really applied it much, kinda frustates me abit, Everyone wants results but obviously that takes time. But I’m trying to apply it to school, sometimes i just write random stuff in japanese, and ppl do tend to look and say “What’s he writing down?!” lol I remeber i randomly wrote like a paragraph of sentences of in japanese and one girl was like “YOU KNOW JAPANESE!?”. I was like no i suck at japanese! lol Maybe i;m not giving myself enough credit or something but i still suck badly. I’m sure the input will be able to get me fluent in 1 years time since i do spend quite a large amount of time doing sentences+reps and immersion. But output hasn’t come just yet for me. I think my problem is just to apply it and try to see how good i’ve gotten so far. But input i’ll do on my own, but output i’ll try practising even if it’s early on, like khatz said, if you want to do output early it’s good just have the person who you are speaking to correct you ruthlessly lol. So far i’ve went to 3117 kanji and 3700 sentences in 6 months.

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By: Ken /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29041 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:34:11 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29041 アメド: I’m only at the kanji stage, but I find that SRS’ing *by itself* can become boring (or frustrating, since — as Khatzu points out — it only shows me what I suck the most at). My fix: apply it!

When I walk through the International District, every week I find I can read a little more of the signs. I went to a Chinese restaurant with some friends on Saturday and I could read half the kanji on the cover of the menu (not technically Japanese but who cares?). On one of the twitter feeds I read (they’re great because they’re short sentences but real Japanese!), I could read a *whole sentence* today — because one of the kanji was one that my SRS has been showing me constantly for the past couple days, and I was *finally* able to write it this morning! (But I could easily read it, since reading is 5x easier.)

It also helps me to see that the things I used to think were hard, are now easy. When I flip open my kanji book to page 30, I can remember struggling with those, but today I can easily name every one. So I can imagine a day when I think the whole book is easy.

Here’s an idea: with that much kanji, you can probably get around on your computer pretty well. (You *do* have your computer set to Japanese, don’t you?) So go into your GMail preferences and set the language to Korean for 2 minutes. Holy cow I can’t read a single thing, or even pronounce anything, and all these characters look identical, I swear, and … OK, OK, breathe, it’s alright, I’ll just switch it back to something easy … Japanese! 🙂

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By: アメド /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-29000 Wed, 02 Dec 2009 03:52:15 +0000 /?p=480#comment-29000 SRSing is starting to become boring recently, or maybe it’s just today lol had so much tests, just feeling so lazy to continue my 100/day sentence routine. Only been 6 months(3 months kanji+3 months immersion+sentences). I’ve reached 3600-3700 sentences so far. I think the main problem for people to continue is the motivation, that always effects me. Like today i don’t feel like doing my sentence reps(it’s 769 cuz i was missed one day of reps). I’m lucky that usual my motivation is just linked to my energy. So when i’ve got lots i always continue. I haven’t gotten any output yet, only thing is for output is probably easier to say things+read. But what i’ve noticed when i try to write from memory is that, it takes more input to produce output. So i’m convinced with large heavy input, it’ll eventually lead to some really high level output. But i think it’s good to just do both lol. Work on output with japanese people and do input on you’re own, and in 1 years time, it’ll both collide and produce pure ownage!

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By: Surrealus /the-language-learners-prayer/#comment-28982 Tue, 01 Dec 2009 23:15:35 +0000 /?p=480#comment-28982 Your words are not my words but they mean the same. Thanks.

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