Comments on: What’s Wrong And Right With Vocabulary Lists — How To Use Them Without Being Used By Them

By: click here

click here — Wed, 19 Sep 2018 03:41:29 +0000

This was the most important part for me, it basically made me instantly get my s##t together. I’m just going to try and read s##t with rikaikun and that should give me words in context… that combined with Japanese TV should get me somewhere ’cause they love subtitling s##t and it’ll hopefully give me revision. I’m sick of f###ing around with SRS at the moment.

By: Katka

Katka — Tue, 20 Sep 2016 14:14:04 +0000

I learned a lot of vocab with flash-cards, which helped me and boosted my knowledge in that time, but I was at a very low language-level. Nowadays i prefer writing a vocab-journal (you can see here: nerozumiemblog.wordpress.com/2016/09/05/vocab-journal/). There I note down the new word and words that are connected to it. These connections can either be more meanings of that word, other grammar-forms or even other words that just mean something similar, but different. (Like smile and laugh) This way I get a big picture of this word – or better this groop of words and learn/mezmorise it easier…

By: Oliver Rose

Oliver Rose — Sat, 09 May 2015 04:59:11 +0000

Yup, learning from wordlists can get boring! For some more enjoyable practice that makes you process the kanji in different ways, check out the different games at www.kanjigames.com

Enjoy!

Oliver

By: Jam

Jam — Sun, 08 Mar 2015 02:20:41 +0000

I love the way you write, it reminds me of how I write haha
“Every word you don’t know in a document you want to read is already an implicit vocabulary list”
This was the most important part for me, it basically made me instantly get my shit together. I’m just going to try and read shit with rikaikun and that should give me words in context… that combined with Japanese TV should get me somewhere ’cause they love subtitling shit and it’ll hopefully give me revision. I’m sick of fucking around with SRS at the moment.
Thankies Khatz.

By: Daian

Daian — Fri, 16 Jan 2015 22:39:38 +0000

Learning vocabulary from a list can be boring, but I don’t think it is put to waste.
I’ve been listening to Vocabulearn on my free time without really forcing myself to learn all those in the list.
Just passive listening, putting the audio file on loop.
I guarantee you that some words will really stick in your memory, and you’ll be surprised when you listen or watch some Japanese shows (or your language of preference) that you will remember some of them.
This is when discovery learning and context will come in.
Just my opinion. ^^

By: Peter

Peter — Mon, 29 Sep 2014 06:09:36 +0000

I learned French entirely with word lists. I really like it, and find it way better than Anki because I can drill the words over and over. I never get enough exposure with Anki. Once I know a word fairly well from my word lists, only then do I bother adding it to Anki.

By: 雷撃

雷撃 — Fri, 26 Sep 2014 21:33:48 +0000

That’s kinda how I use them now… pick up a list (any list! (just make sure it’s Japanese!)) and abuse it! pick a few unknown words (just the pretty ones), take them on a date, show them around, get to know them a little better. And then just trow the the f*** out! Really, who does she thinks she is, that dirty list!

See, I don’t even make SRS cards anymore. It’s just not my style I guess, it bores me, makes it feel like work, makes me feel bad when I can’t get that one card right! The words will stick in the end, you’ll come across them again. And if not, who cares? Really, not that important now, are you “word”! Anyway, reading books is what I love, I just do it in Japanese now. (Kindle paperwhite has a dictionary build in so you can just tap a word to see the definition, pretty awesome, my best learning tool to date)

Only Kanji, keep repping kanji, can’t do that without an SRS… but 5 minutes a day of reps is not so bad. 🙂

By: James

James — Tue, 08 Jul 2014 11:04:22 +0000

Ah memories of taking the train home from work, dog tired, trying to memorise row after row of German verbs with their English translation underneath. Wechseln, verwechseln, abwechseln… how I ever imagined I would then be able to use these accurately and in context really baffles me.

The trick I use now works much better. When out and about I run a monologue in my head where I try to describe things I see, think of what I’d say in certain situations etc. I keep a list of ‘unknowns’ on my phone which I work through whenever I’m at a computer with time to spare. I look up the correct phrase and force search this in google to find examples, creating anything from 1 to a handful of MCD cards depending on the number of decent sentences I find.

The advantage of this is that the sentences tend to contain other words and usages previously unbeknown to me. I can then create MCDs for these too, using examples that contain the word I was originally looking for. This leads to a sort of force-multiplier effect, whereby I learn the phraseology around a certain idea as well as the word itself.

For example I recently looked up the word for direct debit (Abbuchung), which lead me to people complaining that their bank statement (Kontoauszug) listed debits they weren’t able to account for (konnte diese nicht zuordnen). Just doing this for a handful of new words quickly proliferates into whole chunks of overlapping knowledge, all nested in neat sentences ready to be put into the SRS.

By: mark95427

mark95427 — Tue, 08 Jul 2014 07:06:08 +0000

The only problem I face with ordered word lists is that it becomes an empty, rote experience. Sure, word lists ensure I learn. But they also ensure I become bored as I learn. I then associate Japanese words with said boredom. I then forget said words. I then try to relearn these words. I become saddened by my lack of progress, and begin to feel a gnawing uncertainty of when I will finish said word list. I then lose my desire to learn Japanese. Of course, for those that have an uncanny ability to review consistently and daily, I’d say go for it. My own experience, albeit anecdotal, tells me that if one requires excitement, interest, or stimulation to learn; he must learn individual words through excitement, interest, or stimulation.

By: Sarin96

Sarin96 — Sun, 06 Jul 2014 20:47:59 +0000

Especially at the beginning of my Japanese adventure there was something that I did a lot and I think it’s quite amusing (at least for me).
1.I searched a sentence that had interested me.
2. I put it in Anki.
3. I took one word of this sentence and googled for examples (Sentences from 知恵袋、２ちゃん, tatoeba etc.)
4. I took the new sentence with the one word that I already knew.
5. Repeat it until you don’t enjoy it anymore.

The big advantage that I saw, was, that I had one word in two different sentences. And it was somehow funny to see how different the sentences became after a certain time.