Comments on: Why Do We Play? What Dogs Can Teach Us About Learning Languages /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/ You don't know a language, you live it. You don't learn a language, you get used to it. Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:09:19 +0900 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.13 By: Ten Reasons Why Getting Used to Languages is Exactly Like Baking Cookies | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-1000061765 Wed, 20 Nov 2013 23:37:15 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-1000061765 […] Why Do We Play? What Dogs Can Teach Us About Learning Languages […]

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By: Don’t Fight Your Parents: Parasitic Learning Over Antagonistic Competition | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-1000010144 Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:37:22 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-1000010144 […] But playing is fun, so we play. […]

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By: kai /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-302540 Sat, 12 Jan 2013 23:01:57 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-302540 This might be a personality trait and not something everyone can relate to but I wouldn’t mind some opinions. Recently, having only a part time job of like 15 hours a week and no tests to study for being out of school and all, I’ve noticed that things that were once a lot of fun, have become less fun.

Now this might seem like a symptom of depression so far but let me continue. I still see some things as fun, just most goal related things, not things like TV or video games, the things I thought were a lot of fun back when I was in school or working full time. Here is the interesting bit. I had a personal training exam to study for and really buckled down for it, studying like 5 to 7 hours a day for lets say a week. I had already passed the exam once before which meant having to study for it again was mostly redundant and boring. We could say it was your standard “work”, standard “A.S.M.” style work.

The interesting part is that once I took a break after a few days of 5-7hr drudgery, anything I could think of doing seemed like it would be amazingly fun. It was like being being a kid in a candy store, that feeling. Now I’ve felt this feeling before, and maybe some of you have too, like when you get a study week or Christmas break. It’s like, “wow I could do so much fun stuff I barely know where to start”. So I got that feeling and then thought about studying languages and I was like, ” wow languages seem like so much fun right not, almost too fun”

So that was my observation, and my guess of why I and others probably experience that feeling are that fun might be actually relative within a certain time span. So if you do something that is really not fun for a certain length of time and then stop, you’ve built up this reference point of how little fun your life is. So you have that reference point in your mind and then you can do something fun and it will feel like even more fun relative to the reference point. However once you do the fun thing for a time, the reference point of how fun your life is changes, it moves up so that fun becomes the norm. However if fun becomes the norm, it actually becomes not fun, because you get used to it.

This is actually a bit of a defense of work and A.S.M., and I would love to hear other peoples opinions on the subject. The key concepts here are “desensitization” like becoming desensitized to fun. do you experience this? And for the sake of remaining sensitive to fun, is it worth it to do A.S.M. things on purpose? Also, a lot of A.S.M. things can work in your favor like you can earn money to do more fun things ect ect. So does anyone have thoughts?

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By: Billy /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-298028 Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:33:39 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-298028 I think I read this article too early. XD

Last one told to me listen to a song which was no problem. But I’m still waiting to buy Persona. 😮

Does your version of Persona by any chance have English subtitles?

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By: Stop With The Resolutions, Start With The Crack | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-297395 Sun, 06 Jan 2013 08:59:27 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-297395 […] from “the right place”, people make them for good reasons. But as any AJATTeer knows, good reasons are bad. If what we needed were good reasons, there’d be no smokers and we’d all be nice to our […]

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By: The Real CZ /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-295661 Fri, 04 Jan 2013 04:05:45 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-295661 You can make school fun. Doing the actual school work might be boring as hell, but you can delve further into certain topics that interest you by going to the library, which is really the only good thing about universities these days. Yes, there are some ways to making something mundane like school more fun. I would have to agree with you about the HIV medication. Just take the medication at the scheduled times so you can go on having fun elsewhere in life.

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By: Rou /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-294543 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 10:31:45 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-294543 But honestly, sometimes you have to do things because of the “good reasons”, like in the aforementioned HIV example. There isn’t really a way to make taking medication fun. I have to finish school because of “good reasons” and there isn’t a way to make it run either. And so on and so on…

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By: Tacnd /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-294495 Wed, 02 Jan 2013 08:11:17 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-294495 I had JUST taken a break from Persona 4 Arena just to see if there was an update on here. There was. And it was good. Off to go have some more fun in Japanese.

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By: Ruben /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288783 Tue, 25 Dec 2012 06:36:12 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288783 Playing Persona 3 right now.

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By: Dave /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288564 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:33:51 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288564 Oh, and Merry Christmas 🙂

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By: Dave /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288562 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:31:02 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288562 The linguist Wallace Chafe once tried (successfully imo) to distinguish play as a phenomenon from humor, laughter, and the feeling of nonseriousness behind it. Baasically, what is the difference between the kind of nonseriousness that results in laughter and the kind of nonseriousness that constitutes play in human beings and other animals. The question got brought up because interestingly nonserious play does not always resut in laughter and giggles. What he has to say about laughterr/humor nonseriousness is interarsting but not so relevant here so I’ll restrict my recollection to his thoughts on play. Play is essentially nonserious rehearsal for situations that could potentially be very, very sirius. We get pleasure from play, even if it is strenuous, more often perhaps than the kind of masochism that often masquerades as discipline. Maybe that kind of masochistic discipline is not just a human pathology either because another thing chafe says is that the rehearsal element of play is often curiously overemphasized (e.g. Poor sportsmanship from players and coaches in football games, young pups getting carried away while playing and being overly aggressive). I take this all to mean that nature has prepared us (including dogs) for the inevitably serious situations in life by providing a pleasurable way to rack up those hours of much needed practice. All we have to do is make sure that the rehearsal elements in our lives are not distressfully overemphasized, and that they are appropriately balanced with an attitude of nonseriousness.

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By: Fabian /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288561 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 20:26:45 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288561 This is funny because I bought Persona 4 in Japanese a few days ago ^^

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By: Jon /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288498 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:40:47 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288498 Nothing was bold. =( Haha. I didn’t know how to skim this post.

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By: SuperNormal K /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288490 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:26:05 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288490 Merry Christmas.

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By: Oosaka Ayumu /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288460 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 16:05:16 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288460 AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Horny things!!! Too horny 4 normal people to be understood. (Ehm I love this kind of jokes)
The globalization of the Nut. Coming soon.

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By: Ken Seeroi /why-do-we-play-what-dogs-can-teach-us-about-learning-languages/#comment-288454 Mon, 24 Dec 2012 15:59:22 +0000 /?p=8225#comment-288454 Khatz, you’ve again managed to combine half a dozen unrelated ingredients into one delicious soup that conveys your message. Your singular devotion to enjoying the process of learning Japanese is inspirational, as always.

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