Comments on: Zero-Certainty /zero-certainty/ You don't know a language, you live it. You don't learn a language, you get used to it. Sat, 04 Jul 2020 16:09:19 +0900 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=5.1.13 By: tl /zero-certainty/#comment-1000574193 Wed, 13 May 2020 16:52:42 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-1000574193 Hey Khatz,
The xamuel link is now pointing to somewhere else.
Unfortunately it looks like he took his blog and glowing face man stuff off the internet.

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By: If You Want to Fail (Badly and Permanently), Demand Certainty | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /zero-certainty/#comment-1000573928 Sat, 25 Apr 2020 06:37:12 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-1000573928 […] The thing that most people either fail to realize (or are loathe to admit) about pessimism is that it’s comforting because it gives us certainty. But if you want to succeed in any field, including learning (=getting used to) a language, you need …. […]

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By: There Is A Magic Silver Bullet | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /zero-certainty/#comment-1000050627 Mon, 24 Jun 2013 02:07:21 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-1000050627 […] humans “can’t” fly. I know this because I’ve been one of these people; there’s a perverse pleasure and security in certainty, even negative certainty — indeed, in the most recent Batman movie, Bane tortured Wayne with the hope of escape from […]

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By: 10 Common Reading Mistakes You’re Making That You Need to Stop Making if You Want to Be Thin and Pretty Like Me | AJATT | All Japanese All The Time /zero-certainty/#comment-1000026880 Mon, 20 May 2013 15:07:16 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-1000026880 […] expecting agreement In fact, stop expecting, period. Stop expecting agreement. Stop expecting disagreement. Stop expecting to agree with everything in the book. Stop expecting the author’s statements […]

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By: 我我我普通 /zero-certainty/#comment-56041 Thu, 23 Sep 2010 16:02:38 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-56041 I do think these ideas have been expressed before. This article reminds me of a lot of what I know about Buddhism.

Unexplained optimism. This is what the French buddhist was refering to in one of the previous posters comments.

you tell someone, “be positive man!” and then they fail and a nasty cycle of self punishment ensues.
What the French Buddhist in that story referred to then was that we are positive already. we are already beautiful, we are already equiped with everything we need. Optimism 2.0 is when you aren’t grasping for validation from the outside but are in sync with everything that is right about you on the inside. I’m going to do whatever is helpful for me to learn Japanese because I am good enough to learn Japanese. There is no barrier then. No, “I’m going to do 100 anki reps everyday because if I don’t I won’t learn Japanese”. You live in the moment because you are already the person you need to be.

We all know why pessimism sucks. cause… well, it’s boring and whiny and doesn’t get you anywhere….

I have always thought of AJAAT as a Buddhist world view. to me the connection is very easy to make:

take the 8 fold path for instance:

right view: good input, j-shows and j-songs,
right intention: the difference between likeing j-pop and the commitment to learn japanese
right speech: read that stuff out loud, practice it, copy it, mimic it, sing it loud and proud
right action: get a japanese girlfreind/boyfreind, take a all japanese kendo class, talk to the guy at the j-grocery
right livelyhood: getting a job really helps buying that plane ticket to narita. pretty practical stuff here.
right effore: If you study 10 cards a day, it will take you 300 years to know japanese… put a little elbow greace please?
right mindfulness: this is the immersion environement. most of what AJAAT for me is, is in this step
right concentration: this is what todays article was about. this is the philisophical nugget of buddhism. my concentration is on not being obsessed with any of the crap that i did before. concentrate on not being certain. on living in the moment and having fun.

(right concentration comes from sitting down and practicing not being certain about things. . . i.e. meditation)

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By: Michel /zero-certainty/#comment-55818 Mon, 20 Sep 2010 23:03:55 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55818 You respect your own philosophy by not being too certain about what you’re stating. I just discovered you and am already starting to like you.

I read some of the replies and someone disagreed with the fact you’re “quantifying” certainty by giving it a number. Completely missing the point … Zero Certainty, as you put it, is a goal. You *aim* for zero, and zero is more of a concept than an actual number… Logically, nobody would say that you’re going to reach it and stay there.

Scientific method works pretty much like that too (a real scientist cannot be too certain, he has to consider that he may be wrong). Critical thinking too (suspending judgment until enough evidence has been gathered). And you’re suggesting that we should try and apply this to other aspects of our life such as being optimistic/pessimistic about something. Really, you’ve made me think more in 30 minutes of viewing your site than the past few weeks together.

Considering how science has pushed us forward so quickly since we adopted it as a standard for knowledge gathering, I think applying it to our life in a broader sense has the potential to push us ahead even more.

Religions will fight this way of thinking because they’ll feel it threatens them, but eventually they’ll have to give up.

Great post! Keep it up 🙂

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By: Zach /zero-certainty/#comment-55691 Sun, 19 Sep 2010 20:11:04 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55691 You’ve been reading The Black Swan recently haven’t you?

ブラック・スワン[上]─不確実性とリスクの本質 by ナシーム・ニコラス・タレブ t.co/Lju73mp

If not, you really should. It deals with this very subject. That is, we are far more capable of creating stories from nothing than we are at accepting what we don’t know.

And what we don’t know is what we should be doing anyways to find out. It’s easy to be pessimistic because we’re so damn dramatic about EVERYTHING.

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By: ujhold /zero-certainty/#comment-55688 Sun, 19 Sep 2010 19:17:39 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55688 “Pessissm calls for laziness”; but what is optimism? What if I certain about that I can finish something on time; because I am optimistic. Because this statement seems correct. What if I fail , because I am too much confident. 2) If I am pessimistic, because I am fear, maybe do not achieve things if I expect too much.
Maybe I am always lack of informations, what is needed to decide. If I already spent countless hours to achieve something, but maybe it is the time to change. But change is illogical in this situation. But without change, I can not improve myself, or I will not able get some informations to be able to decide in the future. Can It be, that I fear to do something, because the future is undetermined :P.
I am pessimistic, I know what to do tomorrow, I need to gain more experience. But it is not about, who is paranoid and who is not. It is all about, sometimes I need to decide over my own “logic”. I need to accept my fail sometimes to improve. I wonder why I am not pessimistic about being pessimistic.
Ignore me if I am speaking trash. >:D

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By: tcharo /zero-certainty/#comment-55597 Sat, 18 Sep 2010 14:19:06 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55597 A similar observation expressed here:

alumni.mckinsey.com/alumni/default/public/content/jsp/alumni_news/20090908_Laurence_Shorter_Feature.jsp

> A noted French Buddhist tells him that “stupid optimism” is thinking that things will always go your way; true optimism is not attaching happiness to any external situation.

Stupid optimism is brittle. True optimism comes from the fact that you accept that you’re gonna fail with some probability anyway.[*] So you accept failure, even if you made conscious efforts to avoid it, without damaging your optimistic mindset.

[*] Related maybe? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Many-worlds_interpretation

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By: Tyler /zero-certainty/#comment-55487 Fri, 17 Sep 2010 03:13:53 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55487 Found it.

www.seduction.com/blog/showing-up-attractive-part-ii-the-right-kind-of-confidence-and-loving-uncertainty/

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By: Ken /zero-certainty/#comment-55477 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 23:40:29 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55477 I agree completely with what you say about optimism. I’m all for being optimistic and just trying schtuff without knowing for sure whether it’s going to work or not.

That said, I think the “having fun” aspect takes up a lot of slack here. (I think that “have fun” is one of the fundamental concepts of AJATT, more so than “kanji first” or even “SRS”.) I don’t feel I need any extraordinary optimism as long as I’m having fun with what I’m doing.

Michael Jordan may have been the basketball world’s biggest optimist, and for most of his life thought “if I practice for 23 hours a day I’ll be an incredible player!”. Or maybe he didn’t care so much about that, but would simply rather practice playing ball all day than do anything else. They both work, right? (The truth is probably somewhere in between.)

Maybe dorking around in Japanese stuff all day is going to make me a brilliant Japanese speaker, or maybe not, but it’s still a perfectly good and valid use of my time if there’s nothing else I’d rather be doing right now. Havin’ fun here!

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By: Chad M. /zero-certainty/#comment-55472 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 22:34:05 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55472 Nice post Khatz. I understand the feeling of “wanting to share, but not quite fully understanding enough to put it eloquently”. I thought you did a great job of sending the message, especially with those last 3 paragraphs.

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By: Thomas /zero-certainty/#comment-55464 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:17:59 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55464 I think you hit the nail on the head, and quite coincidentally I just made a post about being optimistic very much in the vein of what you mentioned.

I think different ‘brands’ of optimism work for different people. And while your brand is about rolling the dice, so to speak, I prefer the brand of optimism that does involve certainty. From personal experience, it works better.

As you said, it can be fickle. It can be crushed if something bad happens or if someone questions your optimistic attitude (Which will no doubt happen quite often.) but I firmly believe that it can be just as strong, if not stronger than the ‘Well there’s a 50/50 chance either way, so I might as well try’ take on things.

Being an optimist is like being an inverse paranoid. No matter what happens, you automatically assume it’s for your benefit, even if the event that has taken place appears to be catastrophic. Having taken this attitude in my own life, I’ve often been absolutely amazed at the results. A lot of the positive results I’ve experienced can no doubt be attributed to my positive attitude, in that when something bad happens I’m not beating myself up about it and thus am more prepared to deal with the events at hand.

The problem is that, as you said, there is no way to convey that kind of attitude or how to adopt it to someone. Sure, you can extol the values of that brand of optimism, but it’s hardly convincing. There’s no hard science behind it, no logical explanation that I’ve encountered as to how it works. Ironically, had I told my past self about the benefits of being optimistic about all outcomes, I would’ve laughed in my own face.

But it does work. I can say that with every fibre of my being. It does work.

Perhaps it’s better to make steps towards it, though. Take the attitude of Optimism 2.0 first. It’s much less of a leap– it requires much less faith in… whatever you want to attribute it to.

Great post, Khatz. You’re more than qualified to venture into the realm of philosophy.

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By: Theo /zero-certainty/#comment-55463 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:59:18 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55463 I’ve just read… www.dougwils.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1559:False-Alternatives&catid=60:postmodernism
his name is Douglas Wilson

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By: Theo /zero-certainty/#comment-55462 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:57:35 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55462 www.dougwils.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1588:True-Certainty&catid=60:postmodernism

He’s a very good theologian which I admire, He talks about True certainty, you wouldn’t agree with all stuff but without prejudice just read it!

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By: URAHARA /zero-certainty/#comment-55460 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:27:22 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55460 Playing with words and definitions… again….

zero-certainty…
do you imply that you can measure certainty?
we should think of something else….

I understand that you mean the absence of certainty, non-existence, nothingness (Buddhism). And this nothingness can not be described (with words).

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By: Tyler /zero-certainty/#comment-55459 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 18:07:17 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55459 Currently at school, so I’ll make a quick comment.

Look up Ross Jeffries’ site (www.seduction.com/blog).

He calls it Acceptance Confidence.

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By: Jaybot7 /zero-certainty/#comment-55442 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 12:14:44 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55442 I’m 80% certain that Pavlina is a whack-job. No, no… make that 99.9% certain. But you gotta enjoy the big lug, simply because he’s a whack-job who sincerely believes in… But I’m digressing here.

I’m all for certainty with uncertainty, some people call it hope, I guess. I call it… well, I don’t call it anything. I just do something knowing the end result will be pretty close to what I want, and if it isn’t then I don’t fall into a spiral of despair, and instead just make some tweaks and try again, or dump the plan in the trash.

We could just call it the ‘Fark it, let’s give it a shot and see what happens’ principle of certainty.

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By: Theo /zero-certainty/#comment-55416 Thu, 16 Sep 2010 03:30:15 +0000 /?p=2830#comment-55416 That’s quite interesting. It’s good to see that Khatz is going philosophy hehehe. I’m kinda sleepy now but i’m gonna share my view. I’d say that ajatt said it was that certainty must be a living thing, realistic(?), or better, practical, which I agree. [So far as I understand, is that right?] I think in the beginning of the text he said ‘have no certainty’ then it passed to zero certainty, zero sounds reasonable because is kinda a magic number, balanced, that’s what sounds to me… free of pessimism or optimism, not without ambition but free of it too… i don’t know, i have to sleep hehe… GB

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